brown and what the governor is doing. president obama is discussing more and more about the need to raise taxes. it's radical to talk about raising taxes on those who most profitted over the last 20 to 30 years. we are at an opportune moment to get into realities of the challenges of dealing with economic issues. >> then you get a defense budget come out of washington which has in it programs the pentagon is saying we don't want. >> making subs in connecticut. >> they want subs. but, there is a certain reality that -- look at the fence and what happened this week. it was going to be raised. didn't get raised. in that package were defense budgets the pentagon says they don't want funded. they have to be included in the defense budget. >> i agree. to go back to the tax thing, you have to be careful with two thing that is are overlooked. the american federal system of taxes is progressive, very progressive. >> on the books it is. we should make that distinction. >> it is very progressive and way more progressive than countri